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Domain Technologie Control Forum Take the control of your domain name
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imars_webdesigner

Joined: 05 Feb 2010 Posts: 6 Location: France  |
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:51 pm Post subject: MX change in panel but no send possible |
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Hello Thomas
Félicitation pour DTC.
I try DTC on kimsufi server by OVH from on week all working configuration, but email don't working.
I change the mx in panel, wait cron and try to send email.
I have this back message
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| This message his is the mail system at host mx.kimsufi.com. |
Why mx.kimsufi.com i have change this in the panel with this ksXXXXXX.kimsufi.com ? |
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gplhost Site Admin

Joined: 16 Feb 2005 Posts: 3702 Location: Tampa, florida and Singapore, Malaisia  |
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:47 am Post subject: |
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Why are you using a domain name that you don't own? Reconfigure your server to use a domain name that you control.
Thomas _________________ GPLHost:>_ Opensource hosting worldwide
Xen hosting with DTC pre-setup
Helping is not easy when request is not precise: please past logs, don't use "it said" or similar impersonal subjects, and try to be verbose and exhaustive on your problem description. |
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cali

Joined: 06 Jun 2007 Posts: 477 Location: south of france  |
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:00 am Post subject: |
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you should have to change your domain name with your one not keep the ovh subdomain as main domain.
you should configure your domain (if you can) with your correct NS and configure your server with your domain (and your IP).
for exemple you'll cannot have the dtc.ksxxx.kimsuffi.com subdomain, but you are strongly invited to configure to have dtc.yourdomain.tld
in another way ovh aare really really not m friends, far of it.
there are some post on the forum about the reason. _________________ http://solution.adquate.net |
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imars_webdesigner

Joined: 05 Feb 2010 Posts: 6 Location: France  |
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:28 am Post subject: ok this is what I thought |
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ok this is what I thought, i thought i could just change the mx.kimsufi.com by other things temporarily in bind
Bon bah I'll even reinstall DTC and arrange.
But if curiosity or is this variable mx.kimsufi.com knowing that I have in DTC ksxxxxxx.kimsufi.com in the Control Panel |
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gplhost Site Admin

Joined: 16 Feb 2005 Posts: 3702 Location: Tampa, florida and Singapore, Malaisia  |
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 11:41 am Post subject: |
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Seems you still don't understand the issue here.
If you are trying to use mx.kimsufi.com it means that you OWN THE DOMAIN kimsufi.com and want to make some email@kimsufi.com. Unless you are buying kimsufi.com for you own, you wont be able to do this.
So start over, reinstall your server as all values are wrong in all the software that you have installed, and do the necessary things to change your hostname BEFORE installing anything in a server (which all sane network administrator would do).
By the way, i consider that this is a wrong configuration of your default hostname, as OVH shouldn't be giving you just a hostname, but a full domain to play with. Seems even them, they don't understand such a simple concept.
Thomas _________________ GPLHost:>_ Opensource hosting worldwide
Xen hosting with DTC pre-setup
Helping is not easy when request is not precise: please past logs, don't use "it said" or similar impersonal subjects, and try to be verbose and exhaustive on your problem description. |
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imars_webdesigner

Joined: 05 Feb 2010 Posts: 6 Location: France  |
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 12:24 pm Post subject: No i understand the issue here. |
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No i understand the issue here.
In fact for use with my Plesk server two years ago and worked the mail knowing that I was using the domain ks35xxxx.kimsufi.com I thought it was possible to do with DTC, just a guess.
But thank you you replied I'll correct my problem.
Thank you again |
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cali

Joined: 06 Jun 2007 Posts: 477 Location: south of france  |
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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configure your domain name to have your IP on it (different way depending your registar)
configure your server (from the OS) with your right domain name
configure your host files to be able to manage all your IP on the server
and after you could install DTC correctly, with your right NS and MX settings, and SSL for your control panel.
it's impossible to compare plesk and DTC. In fact there are two hosting control panel, but DTC is not intrusive, DTC let you do what you (ou presque) want with your apps and instaal the mail system you prefer.
plesk you can't you just have what plesk would give you and that's all.
i had used plesk, direct admin, and so on, i know what about i say. (else i also had dedicated server in ovh then ... i know what they are) _________________ http://solution.adquate.net |
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imars_webdesigner

Joined: 05 Feb 2010 Posts: 6 Location: France  |
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for configure.
i have not compare plesk and DTC, in fact i use plesk for my client who need a server i not have a good expertise to administration a last year.
Iam so happy to use DTC, you right DTC is not intrusive.
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| (else i also had dedicated server in ovh then ... i know what they are) |
me to i know what they are, but ovh is cheap |
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gplhost Site Admin

Joined: 16 Feb 2005 Posts: 3702 Location: Tampa, florida and Singapore, Malaisia  |
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:21 am Post subject: Re: No i understand the issue here. |
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| imars_webdesigner wrote: |
| In fact for use with my Plesk server two years ago and worked the mail knowing that I was using the domain ks35xxxx.kimsufi.com I thought it was possible to do with DTC, just a guess. |
Do not insist here, I'm telling you that semanticaly, you are doing things wrongly (trying to take over a domain name that you do not own). While I do, you are saying that Plesk can, and DTC doesn't. First, this is wrong, if this is intrinsecly a bad setup in general (with your server's domain being kimsufi.com, so you are trying to receive emails for the @kimsufi.com domain), it is wrong for both DTC and Plesk, cPanel, whatever... Then I believe that with BOTH solutions (plesk and DTC) you could succeed in having a BROKEN setup as you ask, with other domains working and receiving emails. But I don't think this is what you want.
Please, do as I said. Reinstall YOUR SYSTEM from scratch, then configure a correct domain and hostname, then install DTC on it. A correct config could be:
/etc/hostname: mx.whatever.kimsufi.com
DTC panel: dtc.whatever.kimsufi.com
this way you ca receive email@whatever.kimsufi.com for the root account, cron jobs, mdadm, support tickets, renewals, webmaster, etc. (which you can't with your setup)
Or do it with a domain that you own.
Thomas _________________ GPLHost:>_ Opensource hosting worldwide
Xen hosting with DTC pre-setup
Helping is not easy when request is not precise: please past logs, don't use "it said" or similar impersonal subjects, and try to be verbose and exhaustive on your problem description. |
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cali

Joined: 06 Jun 2007 Posts: 477 Location: south of france  |
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:27 am Post subject: |
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personnaly i think you should not use xxx.kimsiffu.tld, you should use your domain name, the one you own.
and ovh are cheap yes, but ... i let you find some ovh thread on this forum, you'll see. _________________ http://solution.adquate.net |
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imars_webdesigner

Joined: 05 Feb 2010 Posts: 6 Location: France  |
Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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Thank everyone
Thomas soon i create a nice template for DTC to thank you and for me  |
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gplhost Site Admin

Joined: 16 Feb 2005 Posts: 3702 Location: Tampa, florida and Singapore, Malaisia  |
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:14 am Post subject: |
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Great, share it then, so we can include it.
Thomas _________________ GPLHost:>_ Opensource hosting worldwide
Xen hosting with DTC pre-setup
Helping is not easy when request is not precise: please past logs, don't use "it said" or similar impersonal subjects, and try to be verbose and exhaustive on your problem description. |
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albux
Joined: 21 Sep 2009 Posts: 80 Location: France  |
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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| cali wrote: |
personnaly i think you should not use xxx.kimsiffu.tld, you should use your domain name, the one you own.
and ovh are cheap yes, but ... i let you find some ovh thread on this forum, you'll see. |
Come on guys, OVH is not that bad, but the truth is, that it seems bad to modify the server name in the configuration files, but it's just logic ! |
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cali

Joined: 06 Jun 2007 Posts: 477 Location: south of france  |
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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personnaly i think OVH are very bad, their kernel too, their hardware too (mainly HD), and their technical support ... no comment.
but it's really personnal. _________________ http://solution.adquate.net |
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albux
Joined: 21 Sep 2009 Posts: 80 Location: France  |
Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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I've just gone to your website for a long ... Putain il est chouette ton site ! tu tripotes avec AJAX !! je me trouve déjà nul en graphisme, mais alors la, je suis carrément dégoutté
Hum, those sentences didn't need to be in english ... |
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