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[seeb]

I install new server on Lenny. All time installed DTC+qmail but first time + postfix. My client use mailing list but lists not working... I create list on my domain and ty use this. Afrer creation coming e-mail with instruction to owner mean list-help ... list-subscribe etc.

I try subscribe list ... and send message to list-subscribe@domain...
I got error like this:

Code:

This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:      lista-subscribe{at}seeb.net.pl Technical details of permanent failure: Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further information about the cause of this error. The error that the other server returned was: 550 550 5.1.1 <lista-subscribe{at}seeb.net.pl>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table (state 14).    ----- Original message ----- Received: by 10.103.224.17 with SMTP id b17mr373909mur.61.1235609912458;         Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:58:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: <seeb73{at}gmail.com> Received: from ....         by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm767989mup.19.2009.02.25.16.58.31         (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5);         Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:58:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <49A5EA67.8020802@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 02:03:35 +0100 From: Sebastian Pachla <seeb73{at}gmail.com>

I looking to syslog...

Code:

Feb 26 02:08:12 main postfix/smtpd[7808]: connect from mail-fx0-f168.google.com[209.85.220.168] Feb 26 02:08:17 main postfix/smtpd[7808]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from mail-fx0-f168.google.com[209.85.220.168]: 550 5.1.1 <lista-subscribe{at}seeb.net.pl>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table; from=<seeb73{at}gmail.com> to=<lista-subscribe{at}seeb.net.pl> proto=ESMTP helo=<mail-fx0-f168.google.com> Feb 26 02:08:17 main postfix/smtpd[7808]: disconnect from mail-fx0-f168.google.com[209.85.220.168]

cut of my config...

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--- cut --- myorigin = /etc/mailname mydestination = main.seeb.net.pl, localhost.seeb.net.pl,mx.seeb.net.pl, localhost, relayhost = mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8 [::ffff:127.0.0.0]/104 [::1]/128 mailbox_size_limit = 0 recipient_delimiter = + inet_interfaces = all # Configured by DTC v0.12 : Please don't touch this line ! # DTC virtual configuration myhostname = mx.seeb.net.pl # disable the following functionality by default (otherwise can't match subdomains correctly) parent_domain_matches_subdomains= --- cut ---

Any ideas?
tnx for help
Sebastian 'Seeb' Pachla

[gplhost]

Hi,

Your recipient delimiter is set to be + and not -. So you should write to:

lista+subscribe{at}seeb.net.pl

and not to:

lista-subscribe{at}seeb.net.pl

and then it will work. Maybe the issue is that DTC is always sending informations with - and not what has been configured. I'll change the Git version regarding this issue.

Thomas
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[seeb]

recipient_delimiter = -

I hope it working now (I tested before posting) but now was "init 6"

[gplhost]

Why told you to change the recipient delimiter there? I didn't !!!

Switch it back, then reload postfix, and send to the correct email address. If you leave with -, then your-email@ wont work, because it has a - in it. Also, each list has the delimiter set in the control folder, so you would have had to change them all. Last, dtc has the value as well ...

So just do what I said in the first place!

Thomas
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[OdEa]

I have the same problem:
I changed the delimiter to "-" in the mailing list configuration page.
It didn't solved my problem :\
What are we supposed to have in postfix's main.cf?
In the mailling list configuration page?
Is it correct to have a mailling list with "-" in the name? I think gplhost told me that "_" (not "-") was not RFC compliant.
Thanks!

[gplhost]

Well, you actually should avoid the - character, as this CAN be the recipient delimiter. Now, if you change manually the recipient delimiter in the mailing list, I supposed that you did:

dpkg-reconfigure postifx
dpkg-reconfigure dtc-postfix-courier

in order to change the recipient delimiter there, right? In other words, change the recipient delimiter is not exactly "just an option", you got to know what you are doing here.

Thomas
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[OdEa]

Indeed I didn't reconfigure packages.
When I do that he ask me to change the delimiter :

What should I choose?
In fact what are the best pratices?:
* main.cf -> delimiter = "+" or "-" ?
* mailing list DTC web configuration "+" or "-" ?:

* mailing list name could contains "-" or "_" or none of them?

Thanks for the help!

[gplhost]

Best practice is to use + and not -, otherwise list-name for your list will not work, as postfix will "see" list as the user, and -name as the extension. Also, if you use - as the delimiter, then my-email@ wont work as "my" will be seen as the user.

Now, in our Singapore server, we have decided to use - as the delimiter, because we found nice to have dtcdev-subscribe@ as the registration email instead of dtcdev+subscribe@.

All this is quite a mater of tastes...

Note that the delimiter in postfix AND in dtc AND in your list should match. In fact, DTC will "reset" the delimiter of all your lists to what you have configured for it in the debconf questions of DTC.

Do you understand more now?

Thomas
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[OdEa]

It's now clear in my head! thanks

[cali]

should i complete the french part of the wiki ? is this one not as clear as it should be to use mailing list on DTC ?

(this part: http://dtcsupport.gplhost.com/UserDoc/FRHow-Works-The-listMail-System )
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[gplhost]

Do as you feel. It would be nice if you had time to complete the EN part too!

Thomas
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[cali]

when i'll finish the french part i'll start the english one but i'm not a so good writer (as in french)
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